Wednesday, 2013-09-04

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github[hawtio] fusesource-ci tagged hawtio-1.2-M11 at 88fea1e: http://git.io/06cNtQ00:19
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mitokondoriahello jstrachan. just came by to say the Reconnect appender() operation at hawtio works as expected06:54
jstrachanyay!06:54
jstrachanglad to hear it!06:54
mitokondoriaafter reloading the log4j.properties and reconnecting the appender, logs came back to life06:54
jstrachanyay06:58
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mitokondoriaRelated with this logging funcionality:07:17
mitokondoriaRigth now, executing "Reload log4j properties()" from hawtio, AMQ´s logfile gets no new inputs.07:17
mitokondoriaExecuting reloadLog4jProperties() through jolokia (or via jmx directly) doesnt stop my AMQ logfile from getting new logs07:17
mitokondoriaThe response for the hawtio request seems to be fine07:17
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jstrachanno idea on the AMQ reload stuff; might be best asking on the AMQ list07:17
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mitokondoriathe fact its that calling this functionality apart from hawtio works as expected07:19
mitokondoriacalling it from hawtio is when the "error" occurs07:19
jstrachanI've never seen an issue with calling from hawtio a JMX method; its typically called - so don't grok why calling an mbean method from hawtio/jolokia or java would be any different07:21
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github[hawtio] jstrachan pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/2giG9Q08:13
githubhawtio/master ffe1ecd James Strachan: attempted fix for the authentication issues on openshift08:13
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mitokondoriafollowing with this reload log4j thru hawtio, starting AMQ on console mode and executing said operation via hawtio shows this error: http://pastebin.com/RHiEwnWF09:04
mitokondoriaand executing directly the related operation doesn`t. Does this give any clue?09:05
jstrachanbit clueless on 'AMQ console mode" and how it affects class loaders am afraid09:06
jstrachanif you want to change logging on the fly its easier to use AMQ inside karaf09:06
mitokondoriathe console mode is just a foreground execution09:07
mitokondoriawill look at karaf09:08
jstrachannot sure why reloading log4j config is changing class loaders (which seems to be implied by the error)09:12
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github[hawtio] jstrachan pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/Ky5VZA09:40
githubhawtio/master 14ed014 James Strachan: [maven-release-plugin] prepare release hawtio-1.2-M1209:40
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mitokondoriaThe implementation for this reload log4j uses reflection (http://grepcode.com/file/repo1.maven.org/maven2/org.apache.activemq/activemq-broker/5.8.0/org/apache/activemq/broker/jmx/BrokerView.java#BrokerView.reloadLog4jProperties%28%29), so could this be related?09:43
mitokondoriaIm not sure how hawtio works, but doesnt it calls internally to jolokia?09:44
jstrachanhawtio just calls jolokia which jsut calls jmx09:48
jstrachanwonder if calling it via jconsole is any different?09:49
mitokondoriait shouldnt09:50
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github[hawtio] jstrachan pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/FtU2Ig09:50
githubhawtio/master 1a14e98 James Strachan: [maven-release-plugin] rollback the release of hawtio-1.2-M1209:50
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mitokondoriain fact, calling jolokia or jmx does work...09:50
mitokondoriathis is really weird09:50
mitokondoria(jmx via jconsole)09:50
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Guest82513hawtio/master 34a1d68 James Strachan: [maven-release-plugin] prepare release hawtio-1.2-M1309:53
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github[hawtio] jstrachan pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/JOXpUQ11:59
githubhawtio/master 9986bd9 James Strachan: fixes #516 and defaults the openshift serverUrl11:59
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githubhawtio/master 2155a68 James Strachan: strip any protocol prefix from the host name along with any / suffixes when connecting12:54
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slewisjstrachan: hey is #393 still an issue?  wondering if we can just close it...13:07
slewisgoing over the open issues in a few with Aileen so trying to tidy up the 1.2 milestone list...13:08
jstrachanyeah - still an issue13:08
jstrachanedit a camel XML - click Add Node - the patterns and endpoints used to be in 2 tabs13:09
jstrachannow its just 1 huge ass tree13:09
jstrachanthe tabs are just gobbled up13:09
slewisok, so maybe worth doing the upgrade to 0.5.0 then?13:09
jstrachanthough there are other working tabs around; so wonder if the markup can be hacked13:09
jstrachanyeah13:09
slewisyeah, that's what I was wondering if there wasn't some odd issue with those particular tabs13:10
jstrachanwould love to switch to that newer tree widget btw so we can do nice filtering boxes on trees ;)13:10
jstrachanthat reminds me - really bugs me that profiles aren't a tree13:10
jstrachanthere's a massive list of 'em when really it should be some kinda tree really13:10
jstrachanhttps://github.com/hawtio/hawtio/issues/23813:11
slewisyeah, could do up a directive for that13:12
slewisbe kinda nice actually if there was a tree on the side of the profile detail view13:12
slewiswonder if it'd better to just show versions/profiles or to actually sort profiles by their parents like IDE does13:13
slewisguess the latter and maybe expand the tree by default13:13
jstrachanyeah - was pondering with profiles of using the file system layout as the tree13:13
jstrachane.g. so you could group things together irresepctive of their hierarchy13:14
slewisyep13:14
slewisah so maybe show the profile with the contained files inside of it?13:14
slewisso like 1.0 / example-camel-fabric / camel-blueprint.xml kinda thing?13:15
jstrachanwas more thinking - instead of 1 directory with 100 profiles in it; group them by aspects / examples / archetypes / services / messaging / integration etc13:15
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jstrachanso we could use a few folders (however deep required) to move things around so its easier for folks to find things13:16
slewisah.  be worth adding that metadata to the profile itself I'd think then13:16
slewisright13:16
slewisyeah I think that's a good idea13:16
jstrachanyeah13:16
slewiswhy not add a 'category' to a profile's attributes13:16
slewisthen we can just go and fill 'em all in13:16
jstrachannot sure the multiple-inheritence hierarchy is the right way to list things; though I guess it could be a default if there's no other13:17
slewisdon't profiles support an attributes.properties or something now?13:17
jstrachanyeah13:17
jstrachanand the category would be inherited13:17
slewisyeah, the inheritance heirarchy isn't ideal13:17
slewisI like having arbitrary categories better13:17
jstrachanyeah13:17
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slewisplus if it's in the profile then folks can create their own categories13:17
jstrachanI guess default to inheritence if none other?13:17
jstrachanyeah13:17
slewiswe could have an "other" category for non-configured profiles13:18
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jstrachanyeah13:18
slewisthe nice thing is I just switched the fabric view to using the profile selecter directive yesterday...13:18
jstrachan:)13:19
slewisso we can slot a tree directive right in withotu much hassle13:19
jstrachandirectives FTW13:19
slewisyeah!13:19
slewiscool, I'd take a look at that.  was hoping to get those toolbars going yesterday but things wound up taking longer than expected13:19
slewisthe usual story13:19
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dejanbjstrachan: I guess we don't need to include org.eclipse.jgit-2.2.0.201212191850-r.jar in amq distro for hawtio?14:12
jstrachanI guess it depends what stuff you need in hawtio; if you want the wiki then yeah, if not no14:13
dejanbhm … a replacement for a amq console14:13
dejanbwould wiki be useful in that case?14:14
dejanbjust looking if I can shed some size14:15
dejanb1.6 M is not that big of a deal if folks a re gonna use it14:15
jstrachanyeah - could go really minimal if you like really14:16
jstrachandashboards use the wiki; but then its not a biggie to not have dashboards14:17
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dejanbjstrachan: is anything changed in jolokia access in latest versions14:39
dejanbif I do14:39
dejanbhttp://localhost:8161/api/jolokia/14:39
dejanbI get 40314:39
jstrachanwhat container?14:39
dejanbsorry … if I try wget --user admin --password admin http://localhost:8161/api/jolokia/14:39
jstrachanits hawtio/jolokia in the hawtio war / feature14:39
dejanbso this is the hawtio embedded in amq distro14:40
jstrachanand /jolokia with the jolokia agent14:40
jstrachantry hawtio/jolokia if you're using the way14:40
jstrachantry hawtio/jolokia if you're using the war :)14:40
jstrachanwar way :)14:40
dejanbyeah … sorry using hawtio/jolokia14:40
dejanbapi/jolokia redirects there14:40
dejanbas well14:40
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github[hawtio] jstrachan pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/DQZ7Jg14:41
githubhawtio/master 0948beb James Strachan: another work around for openshift login woes14:41
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dejanbI see that there is auth filter in web.xml as well14:42
dejanband it's using karaf principal … that might be a problem14:43
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dejanbjstrachan: removed hawtio auth … I guess that's ok … as it will be secured by jetty basic auth14:47
atooniHello, before dong any honest work on the OSGI dependency graph panel, a couple of questions: 1) Do you have any preference what graph lib I use underneath (it looks to me that the one in the AMQ plugin is more what I want) ----- 2) I have seen that the camel visualization sits in the wiki plugin rather than in the camel plugin; is that on purpose ?14:49
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dejanbjstrachan slewis I'm sure there must be a better way of making it work (or at least turning off auth)?14:54
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slewisdejanb: we could take out that RolePrincipal check15:01
slewisbeen on the fence about it anyways15:02
slewisactually you can turn off role checking now that I think about it15:02
dejanbcool … but now that I'm thinking I'm not sure what credentials it expects in plain jetty15:03
dejanbas there's no jaas configured15:03
slewisah, well that'd be a problem then :-)15:03
slewisdejanb: does the broker itself use JAAS and just jetty isn't set up to use it?15:05
dejanbyup … I'm thinking turning off security at all for now … and maybe in the future align the whole distro to use jass (through properties)15:05
dejanbno … at the moment everybody's using their own auth15:05
dejanbit's messy15:05
slewisah, fair enough then :-)15:06
slewisat least there's some knobs that can be tweaked15:06
dejanb:)15:06
slewisi.e. set the role to "" to disable role checking15:06
dejanbslewis: so setting hawtio.authenticationEnabled to false should work15:06
dejanbsystem property?15:06
slewisyep15:06
dejanbcool … let me try that15:06
jstrachanatooni sorry was on a call; 1) we've not yet gone down the requirejs / et al route so we're using global dependences; so we'd like to try avoid having too many graph libs; but we've got the d3 for charty stuff and force directive graphs; then we use dagre as a 'graphviz' like layout engine (for viewing camel routes)15:11
jstrachanin the camel plugin15:11
jstrachanthen the camel editor is in the wiki, which uses dagre too for layout; but uses DOM and not SVG15:11
jstrachanso depends if you want the d3 stuff (which does its own layout using force stuff) or use dagre for layout then use DOM nodes for the shapes etc15:12
jstrachanatooni if you find some really awesome other library though we'd consider adding it; but DOM / dagre/ / d3 have most things covered I think - oh and jsplumb for graph editing15:12
jstrachanatooni 2) yeah; mostly as its used inside the wiki really; its a wiki page right now15:13
jstrachanatooni its a bit odd though; we could maybe have a camel-wiki plugin maybe; does seem a little counter-intuitive ;) - though we've tried to put most of the camel logic in the camel/js/helpers to keep as much in the camel plugin as poss15:13
dejanbslewis: it works … the only this is that we can remove log out link15:21
dejanbif no auth15:21
atoonijstrachan ok thanks. I think the graph libs you have already are more than I need.15:21
jstrachanthe force layotu thing is a bit odd btw ;) think the dagre / graphviz approach is often a bit nicer to look at15:22
jstrachan(e.g. view a camel routes diagram)15:22
atoonijstrachan another question ... does it make sense to have all the bundles data in a factory ? - it seems that you have avoided using an angularjs factory for the other graphs. Sorry if that souds stupid, just beginning angular15:23
jstrachannot sure what "all the bundles data" means :)15:23
jstrachanyou mean the data you are turning into a graph?15:23
atoonicorrect15:23
slewisdejab: ah, yeah that'd be good, wouldn't it...15:24
atooniin my mind I would have used a factory and inject it in my context15:24
dejanb:)15:24
slewisdejanb: let me add an issue so I don't forget15:24
atoonisorry context = scope15:24
jstrachanatooni  that data from anywhere - e.g. a JMX call on jolookia or whatnot - then munge it into the node/link structure and then dagre can do the rest really15:24
dejanbslewis: cheers15:24
dejanbnow to enable log view15:24
jstrachanatooni its a bit fiddly getting the structure right though ;)15:24
jstrachanatooni but any old json would do really15:25
jstrachanatooni unfortuantley angular injector isn't like DI in spring - its injecting global services15:25
jstrachanatooni a controller needs to find/create/query the data from some place and then fire it into something else15:25
atoonijstrachan i was thinking along the lines to have that data handing in a nice encapsulated factory15:25
jstrachanatooni ideally we'd have a graph directive ; where you inject the data15:26
jstrachanatooni which is more like you are suggesting - so the angular way is make a directive and pass data into it15:26
jstrachane.g. https://github.com/hawtio/hawtio/blob/master/hawtio-web/src/main/webapp/app/tree/doc/developer.md15:26
atoonijstrachan need to reread that section then15:26
jstrachanatooni so the angularjs term is "directive"15:26
jstrachanthey are a pretty hardcore place to start your angularjs journey mind you ;) took me many steps of enlightenment to reach 'writing a directive' layer :)15:27
atoonijstrachan I was under the impression that collecting / managing data and inject it in scopes is done via factories, whereas directives are the rendering part15:27
jstrachanso 'services' are the things that do stuff15:28
jstrachane.g. querying a back end for data15:28
atoonii guess i am on the dark side of enlightenment right now15:28
jstrachanthen you inject the services into controllers/directives15:28
jstrachanor a controller can use a service and inject the data into a directive15:28
atooniyep...that was what i was thinking15:28
atoonithe angular manuals put services and factories in the same league15:28
atoonithe difference seemed a bit esoteric though ;)15:29
jstrachanok so hack a service to find the data (just a JS object really) - then use the angular injection to make it visible to other things; then either take a short cut and hack a controller; then later turn it into a directive if you're feeling brave15:29
jstrachanyeah15:29
atoonisounds like a plan15:29
jstrachanI guess the factory thing is the bit that makes a service usable15:29
atoonibtw. I have found the bits and pieces to give ma a canvas to draw on15:30
atooniappears in my console, so I guess I am ready to go15:30
jstrachancool :)15:32
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