Friday, 2013-10-18

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davsclausjstrachan a post on camel @user about hawtio07:19
davsclaushttp://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/hawtio-modular-tp5741808.html07:19
jstrachanyeah - just replying ;)07:20
jstrachanthx ;)07:20
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davsclausah lukas jumped in - yeah no wonder :)07:37
jstrachan;)07:39
davsclausbtw should there be a user forum for hawtio ?07:44
davsclausor can we manage with SO / github issue tracker?07:44
jstrachanyeah07:49
jstrachanI created a google group  -but have tried to avoid using it as github issues are better ;) https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/hawtio07:50
jstrachanlukas really does appear very bitter and twisted doesn't he, bless him07:52
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davsclausyeah there was some tweet of his sating something about congrat that you took 1+ year to copy his felix web console work AFAIR07:59
jstrachanyeah :)08:00
davsclausbtw hawtio 1st commit is next month ?08:00
jstrachanI nearly replied - as hawtio was about 8 months old at the time and he was saying it took us 2 years etc08:00
jstrachanyeah I think its november/dec08:01
jstrachanmaybe we hold back 1.2 for its year birthday? ;)08:01
davsclauscommit 3d46cb025e80feeec0b32bbe1898848235a8d6d708:01
davsclausAuthor: James Strachan <james.strachan@gmail.com>08:01
davsclausDate:   Tue Nov 20 22:30:13 2012 -080008:01
davsclaus    Initial commit08:01
jstrachanyay08:01
atoonifor some ppl time runs faster ....08:01
davsclausyeah could make some drum drum about hawtio 1 year old08:02
jstrachan;)08:02
davsclausso karaf web console has 3 commits this year08:06
davsclausdavsclaus:~/workspace/karaf-webconsole$ git log --since=2013-01-01 --oneline | wc -l08:06
davsclaus       308:06
davsclauscommit 2a586b21e8c1babaaf66cd597e0e3e6512ba1d4908:06
davsclausAuthor: Andreas Pieber <pieber@apache.org>08:06
davsclausDate:   Thu Aug 11 02:43:39 2011 +000008:06
davsclaus    Initial import of the karaf-webconsole from github prototype08:06
davsclausand was ported from a prototype in aug 201108:07
davsclausso it does look like the karaf web console isnt doint to well08:07
davsclausand for hawtio this year08:08
davsclausdavsclaus:~/workspace/hawtio$ git log --since=2013-01-01 --oneline | wc -l08:08
davsclaus    262808:08
jstrachanwe might finish the year ahead on commits if we keep up this pace ;)08:08
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github[hawtio] jstrachan pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/0wIsTw08:27
githubhawtio/master e63319f James Strachan: add a link to the google group08:27
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github[hawtio] fusesource-ci pushed 1 new commit to gh-pages: http://git.io/ePRB_w08:54
githubhawtio/gh-pages b1fc9eb FuseSource CI: Wagon: Deploying sitegen to repository08:54
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jstrachanadded a link to the mailing list http://hawt.io/community/index.html08:54
davsclauswonder if we can get a UI in hawtio that can show the startup times / log events like this09:21
davsclaushttp://grep.codeconsult.ch/2013/10/18/simple-startup-profiling-of-osgi-applications/09:21
jstrachangood idea - lets raise an issue09:31
jstrachanI guess the startup time is esy to find - so we could have a startup view on the bundle page?09:31
davsclausyeah some way of correlating starting / complete events09:31
davsclausthough not sure if there is any mbean way of getting that data?09:32
davsclausor insight log can figure it out?09:32
davsclausor maybe some way to let osgi track that data itself09:32
davsclauskinda nice to know date when started | ready | stopped etc09:32
davsclaustomcat has a date when a war was started etc09:32
davsclausi guess down the line it would also be nice to know who triggered the event09:33
davsclausso you can see if it was system started the bundle, or user john doe did it etc09:33
jstrachanyeah09:33
jstrachanwe may need a new mbean to correlate them or something09:34
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atoonihi...quick question. Is it just for me that the web ui is kind of slow when it runs in an OpenShift Container (even the medium one ?)12:59
atoonii.e. had a lot of time out when i tried to create a second container on openshift12:59
jstrachancreating contianers is super slow13:00
jstrachan(on openshift)13:00
jstrachanam hoping whenever we get the docker crack in openshift it'll be faster!13:01
atoonidisplaying the dashboard took also 20s or so13:01
atooniperhaps need to look a bit into tuning the container ... i would guess the jvm settings are somewhere in the cartridge ?13:02
jstrachanyeah - mostly they come from the fuse distro I think13:03
atooniok13:03
jstrachanwhen you say 20s to display the dashboad - is this the first time you create the fabric; or is this after 2nd container is created & connected to it?13:04
atooniwill try to see where the lag is then :)13:04
atooni2nd13:04
atoonifirst time to open the bundle overview is also 15-20s13:04
atooniwhen i try to create a container it takes ~1min until the available profiles are displayed13:05
jstrachanoh yeah - the bundle overview view sucks ass - its about 2MB of JSON usually13:05
jstrachangiven a fabric thats running; and another container thats started; it shouldn't be too bad connecting, say, from the Containers view to see the logs view in the container13:06
atooniok13:08
jstrachanthe osgi bundle list view is dog slow even running on my laptop btw :) too much data eagerly loaded before rendering anything really13:08
atooninoticed that13:09
atooniits even slow on my laptop13:09
jstrachanyeah - we pull way too much data for each bundle I think13:10
jstrachanhttps://github.com/hawtio/hawtio/issues/65013:10
atooniwondering if it would make sense to refactor to use the data factory behind the scenes13:10
atoonias far as i understand the factories wouldn't loose information13:11
atoonithen we could pull on demand13:11
atoonii'll take that one if you don't mind13:11
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github[hawtio] gashcrumb pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/R3ACEw13:40
githubhawtio/master ca53c62 Stan Lewis: Add documentation for zero clipboard and autodropdown and fix a sizing bug in autodropdown13:40
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github[hawtio] davsclaus pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/x-Ow7w14:22
githubhawtio/master 8983405 Claus Ibsen: #627: Updated welcome text to be up to date.14:22
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davsclausi wonder if the update refresh should have more intervals14:22
davsclauswe got14:22
davsclaus1,2,5,10,3014:22
davsclausmaybe ppl want 15, 20 and 60 ?14:22
davsclausor maybe we need 2 intervals, one for more real time, and another for more background14:23
jstrachanyeah14:24
jstrachanTBH folks could set an exact value too really14:24
jstrachanwonder if just making it a number field (with the up/down arrows) might help?14:25
davsclausyeah14:30
davsclauswonder if we can have a little indicator in that host indicator that flashes / blinks or whatever when a refresh is done14:30
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github[hawtio] gashcrumb pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/lkNiFg14:31
githubhawtio/master ada916a Stan Lewis: Fix #55414:31
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jstrachandavsclaus yeah - might be nice to show a little blink of some kind maybe14:32
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slewisactually that'd be kinda nice, especially if we show red when there's an error14:35
jstrachanyeah14:35
slewisnot sure if jolokia really provides hooks though to easily capture when it's requesting and getting a response back14:36
slewisbe nice if it had a kind of global onRequest/onResponse hook14:36
jstrachanyeah14:36
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slewisguess we could use the jquery global handlers to tackle it too...14:38
davsclaus+114:39
davsclausmaybre russ would know?14:39
slewishmm, doesn't look like he's around...  should open a hawtio ticket anyways for the indicator14:40
slewisand one for the refresh rate, think it'd be easy to turn that into a number field to be honest14:41
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github[hawtio] davsclaus pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/NnukBQ14:44
githubhawtio/master 6913d38 Claus Ibsen: #618: Added safeNull helper to avoid printing null for values in JMX tables which dont look nice.14:44
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* davsclaus oh killed the bot :)14:45
davsclausslewis i think https://github.com/hawtio/hawtio/issues/274 is already fixed14:52
davsclausthere is username/password fields for remote jvm14:52
slewisah this is for the local processes tab14:53
davsclausah maybe local jvm require that?14:53
slewiswhich you only see when using the hawtio app14:53
davsclaushow would you force that on a local jvm? just wonder14:53
slewisso when you attach jolokia to a process you can configure a username/password14:53
slewisso then you'd have to specify that when connecting to that attached jvm agent14:53
davsclausok14:53
slewisright now we when we attach jolokia it's wide open14:53
davsclausah okay to secure it when agent get jammed in the process ?14:54
davsclausgot it14:54
slewisyeah..14:54
slewisno worries!14:54
jstrachanwe're getting through some issues :)14:57
jstrachan303 closed for 1.2! https://github.com/hawtio/hawtio/issues?milestone=4&state=open14:58
jstrachanhttps://github.com/hawtio/hawtio/issues/milestones14:58
slewiswow!14:58
jstrachanI guess those 2 on 1.3 should be 1.2 too ;)14:59
slewisyeah14:59
jstrachan305 even hawter!14:59
slewis'cause we keep adding bugs 'n fixing them :-)14:59
jstrachan;)14:59
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davsclauslol we got easter-eggs in hawtio now :)15:24
davsclauslove the smiley in the jmx openrating system attributes page for swap size15:25
jstrachan;)15:25
davsclausadd donut chard to dashboard :)15:25
davsclaushomer loves that :)15:26
jstrachan;)15:27
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github[hawtio] gashcrumb pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/X7MuAg15:57
githubhawtio/master b182c33 Stan Lewis: Fix #533, let's just skip registering the dev help if fabric isn't available.15:57
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jstrachanslewis was gonna get doc'ing next week on all those missing files...15:58
jstrachanas i've still a fair bit of doc linking in the fabric wiki too15:58
slewisah, no worries, this is for hiding the fabric developer help if fabric isn't running15:59
slewissince it uses live widgets :-)15:59
jstrachanah ;)15:59
slewisdavsclaus: yeah, couldn't find an icon at the time for adding a donut chart to the dashboard, so picked a smiley, donuts make people smile :-)16:00
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github[hawtio] davsclaus pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/J6xuVg16:38
githubhawtio/master 012c93a Claus Ibsen: #565: Camel error handlers displayed nicer in table.16:38
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github[hawtio] gashcrumb pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/m_HIZQ17:11
githubhawtio/master 2f214b6 Stan Lewis: Fix #610 and fix #54017:11
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github[hawtio] gashcrumb pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/tuGlGQ18:52
githubhawtio/master 17c019a Stan Lewis: Update plugin loading description18:52
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githubhawtio/master a714c81 Stan Lewis: Size the terminal in terms of character width/height in preperation of #64619:58
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