Thursday, 2013-11-21

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jstrachanreally nice rich text editor http://xing.github.io/wysihtml5/08:08
davsclausi noticed the syntax highlighter in send to Camel endpoint- when you select plain text08:09
davsclaushighlighted this08:09
davsclausas if it was this from some programming language :)08:10
jstrachan;)08:15
jstrachanwonder what syntax its highlighting?08:15
davsclausyeah mabe javascript or something08:16
davsclausi think null was also highlighted in some kind of blue color08:17
davsclaushello this is null sending a message to you?08:17
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jstrachanyeah; maybe just assumes JS if nothing else ;)08:19
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jstrachan_slewis doh! I'd totally missed you can type $scope into JavaScript console when the angularjs plugin is enabled - and angularjs properties appear on Elements view!14:51
jstrachan_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-7mhcHXSfM14:51
slewisooh a sublime text user...14:53
slewisnice!14:53
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github[hawtio] jstrachan pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/kLzKoA14:55
githubhawtio/master 3a82f76 James Strachan: fixed the camel editor so that it can connect to a remote jvm, create a remote workspace/jolokia and use that to find remote context mbeans to find the available remote endpoints available; plus added nicer Fabric helper methods to get a remote jolokia for a profile or container14:55
githubhawtio/master 9b70fd7 James Strachan: rename helpers.ts -> $fooHelpers.ts so its easier on the eye editing many helper files at the same time in a tab based editor14:55
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davsclauswhoa sounds like jstrachan_ creats a camel virus that can create remote routes on remote containers with remote endpoints doing remote communication over remote networks over a remote web brwoser on a remote work station from a remote work in a remote location :)15:05
slewislol15:06
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jstrachan_davsclaus damn, my cunning secret plan is revealed ;)15:10
davsclausyeah fabric is your botnet15:11
jstrachan_davsclaus gonna try hack a camel based IRC bot that notifies Growl / OS X Notification centre tonight btw; so I can get nice notifications of *my* builds on the pull-req queue ;)15:13
jstrachan_slewis btw - was wondering about renaming "Clusters" tab to be "Registry" as really its just a simple browser of the registry right now; especially now we've got a custom UI for MQ15:14
slewisyeah, we should15:14
slewiswas looking at it the other day wondering if there was a way to improve it a bit too15:14
jstrachan_yeah - incidentally we now have a way to load a tree from the registry as a single json blob15:15
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jstrachan_the APIs view uses it15:15
jstrachan_https://github.com/hawtio/hawtio/blob/master/hawtio-web/src/main/webapp/app/fabric/js/apis.ts#L15-1515:15
jstrachan_(though should be wrapped behind a nicer Fabric helper method really - bad james!)15:15
jstrachan_ah - enabling batarang in chrome, seems to break the page ;)15:16
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joakimedoes hawtio require node.js to run?16:24
jstrachan_no16:27
jstrachan_its a static HTML / JS web app really; can be hosted on a file system, in a WAR or anywhere really16:27
jstrachan_usually its a WAR in a web container; or a stand alone jar16:28
jstrachan_joakime http://hawt.io/getstarted/index.html16:28
jstrachan_e.g. java -jar hawtio-app-1.2.0.jar16:29
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jstrachanslewis am still not 100% sure between, being in some code - for example getting a JSON parsing error; whether you should log it as info / warn / erorr - then whether you should disturb the user ;)19:33
jstrachane.g. bad requests / errors feel like they shouldn't be 'info' level logging19:33
jstrachanbut then disturbing the user doesn't feel like its necessary for all errors etc19:34
slewisjstrachan: yeah but they do tend to indicate a problem that needs fixing...19:34
jstrachane.g. the IDEA Error Log has various warnings that don't jump up at you etc19:34
jstrachanyeah19:34
slewisyeah, I do like the idea of having a toggle to turn off errors19:34
slewisor error notifications19:34
jstrachanso was kinda wondering if the log statement (or notification statement) should indicate category, severity and whether users are disturbed or something19:34
slewisthat is...19:34
jstrachanyeah19:34
jstrachane.g. polling JMX - usually should be ignored -but should be logged19:35
slewisand actually we could even have a similar toggle like the log level19:35
slewisi.e. only notify for errors or warnings etc19:35
slewisjust like the log level19:35
jstrachanbut then it'd be nice to upload logs to a server for admin analysis19:35
jstrachanyeah19:35
jstrachanam not sure if we should tie the log level to whether we notify users or not19:36
jstrachane.g. should a JMX call failing or a response parsing json/xml failing be an 'info'?19:36
jstrachannot sure either way really19:36
slewisI'd think that'd be a warning/error19:36
slewisI'd like to know if something went south sooner in that case, you know?19:36
jstrachanon a tangent - Chrome doesn't seem to wanna reload a html template :) - wonder if we need a no cache header thingy as a filter in dev mode19:36
slewisyeah, have run into that...19:37
jstrachanslewis I generally hate polling errors being noisy though on the screen19:37
jstrachanas shit fails all the time; or some JMX method aint there19:37
slewisyeah, in those cases it's more a matter of catching exceptions and handling them properly19:37
jstrachanyeah -but to learn about whats going wrong - you need to log - but at the flip side - we don't wanna annoy the crap out of users19:38
jstrachanso I am leaning to the log or notify errors/warnings19:38
slewisthere's a global error handler that's probably responsible for most of that kind of thing...19:38
jstrachanyeahj19:38
jstrachanmost of it is in jolokia stuff really19:38
slewisI put it in there to be aware of stuff going wrong, but we could either take it out or maybe do a bit of filtering19:38
jstrachanits a hard one to know for sure the best way - but I was wondering if the notification API is used to 'definitely notify users then log' whereas log just logs (and doesn't notify users?)19:39
slewislike  yeah, when jolokia loses it's connection it hits a fairly unrelated error19:39
jstrachanyeah19:39
jstrachanwhenever we pass 'silent' in to jolokia for example19:40
slewisyeah, maybe that's the way to go, we can just add a log.info in notification() and that'll cover all the existing usage19:40
jstrachanyeah19:40
jstrachanat least its a simple solution where the person writing the line of code can decide whether to disturb the user or not19:40
slewismaybe we can submit some improvements on jolokia's error handling too19:40
jstrachanwe can later on promote non-notified logs and hide notifications etc19:40
jstrachanyeah19:40
slewisyup, fair enough19:41
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jstrachanslewis btw really loving the new watchTsc / grunt thang!19:47
slewisjstrachan: yeah, it's totally awesome19:48
jstrachanyou tried the LiveEdit since we switched to this approach?19:48
jstrachanI guess we don't much need it now LiveReload is so fast19:48
slewisnot so far...19:48
slewisyeah, at the moment I've mostly been working on this directive that's using jquery to add stuff to the dom instead of a template19:49
slewisso hasn't come in handy yet...19:49
slewisjust about to get to some css hacking though, it's going to be great for that19:49
slewisclose to just editing the css in the browser really19:49
jstrachanyeah19:50
jstrachanslewis is there a debug logging we can enable/disable btw?19:56
jstrachanjust found I wanted to turn on logging of unknown jmx methods19:56
jstrachane.g. here https://github.com/hawtio/hawtio/blob/master/hawtio-web/src/main/webapp/app/core/js/coreHelpers.ts#L164-16419:57
slewisyeah, just do log.debug() for those?19:58
slewisthen it's not enabled by default for users19:58
slewiswon't notify either19:59
jstrachancoolio19:59
jstrachanthx19:59
slewisalso it'll format the strack trace a little bit at least19:59
slewisnp!19:59
slewisjstrachan: ah or you maybe want to use "Logger.formatStackTraceString"  looks like20:01
slewisthink that makes sure it's logged nicely with newlines in the html and in the js console20:01
jstrachanyeah - copied that line from the one below20:01
jstrachanyeah20:01
slewiscool20:02
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github[hawtio] gashcrumb pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/PgxcGw20:48
githubhawtio/master 5489447 Stan Lewis: Add a table of contents directive to assemble a big page out of a bunch of documents20:48
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jstrachan_slewis yay! :)20:51
jstrachan_just got a much nicer API explorer UI in there now; soo close to browsing the json schema of operations on REST/SOAP endpoints...20:51
slewisjstrachan_: :-) just sending you an e-mail on it...20:52
jstrachan_yay :)20:52
slewisI copied the docs into my own hawtio-config repo to work on the directive20:52
jstrachan_aha :)20:52
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github[hawtio] jstrachan pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/FqQmqg20:54
githubhawtio/master d8b7fa5 James Strachan: debug logging of bad JMX calls; just in case it really is a bug (e.g. a typo in a name ;)20:54
githubhawtio/master b02713e James Strachan: #736 improve the API browser so that we include the service namespace, swagger/wadl/wsdl API views and container and endpoint location; also we know can query the underlying endpoint via JMX to get its json schema; so soon we should be able to show a nice form for trying out API calls20:54
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github[hawtio] jstrachan pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/T-20HQ20:58
githubhawtio/master f7ac5ca James Strachan: #736 reuse more code across both WSDL and WADL20:58
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github[hawtio] fusesource-ci pushed 1 new commit to gh-pages: http://git.io/ZEEIug21:02
githubhawtio/gh-pages 0703e92 FuseSource CI: Wagon: Deploying sitegen to repository21:02
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github[hawtio] christian-posta opened pull request #768: update for https://github.com/hawtio/hawtio/issues/767 (master...hawtio-767) http://git.io/Rd3zaw21:50
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jstrachan_ceposta thanks!21:52
jstrachan_must go to bed - laters!21:52
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github[hawtio] jstrachan pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/huGhgQ21:52
githubhawtio/master 98baede Christian Posta: update for https://github.com/hawtio/hawtio/issues/76721:52
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cepostalater man!21:52
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