Friday, 2013-12-13

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github[hawtio] davsclaus pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/iOV_jA08:21
githubhawtio/master 8b906d0 Claus Ibsen: Reuse some code between Camel tracer and debugger08:21
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jstrachandavsclaus just starting a cluster wide or jvm wide little force diagram for camel; kinda like the fabric mq diagram; was gonna start by just viewing all endpoints related to a context (per container)08:22
davsclausjstrachan ah hawt, just in time for the weekend08:22
davsclauswhat can go wrong on a friday the 13th :)08:23
jstrachanlol08:23
davsclaussure is awesome with more aggregated views of containers08:23
jstrachanyeah08:23
jstrachanwas just noodling the jmx; shame there's no link to the route id on an endpoint - though  I guess it can be used by many routes on a context08:23
jstrachanwas wondering about linking the endpoint -> the route08:24
davsclausah yeah you mean if endpoint is input to a route ?08:24
jstrachanfor now am just gonna do a context id -> endpoint in a kinda little star type layout - with any contexts reusing the same endpoint joined together etc08:24
jstrachanyeah08:24
jstrachanideally input and output; so we coudl have context1 -> route1 -> seda:bar -> route2 -> context308:24
jstrachanor something like that08:25
davsclausyeah the route mbean ought to have some information08:25
jstrachanyeah08:25
davsclaushttp://camel.apache.org/maven/current/camel-core/apidocs/org/apache/camel/api/management/mbean/ManagedRouteMBean.html08:25
jstrachanmaybe we need a context mbean method to return all endpoints with in/out flags?08:25
davsclausah yeah to build the graph if routes are inter-connected08:26
jstrachanoh you mean use the route mbean to find the input endpoint?08:26
jstrachanyeah08:26
davsclausyeah route mbean can tell with the endppoint08:26
jstrachanjust knowing the in and out endpoints on a context is kinda handy for visualistion08:26
jstrachanah so maybe I just query all the route input endpoints and assume everything else is output?08:26
davsclausyeah thogh i guess all endpoints is out, if they are not the route endpoint08:27
jstrachanonly missing bit then is - no idea which routes output to the endpoints on a context08:27
davsclausyeah that assumption is a good start08:27
davsclausall = out, unless endpoint is in a route mbean endpoint08:27
jstrachanyeah08:28
jstrachanmaybe we need a new operation /attribute on route mbean - get OutputEndpointUris() or something08:28
davsclausso you wanna know if there is any out endpoint that connects to a route input ?08:28
jstrachanyeah08:28
davsclausyeah logically that can be a bit tricker08:29
jstrachanfor now I can just link the endpoints <-> context; but it'd be nicer to know what consumers/producers there are on endpoints per route really; then we could be more fine grained and show directional flows08:29
davsclauswell unfortunately camel 1.0 did not have a hook / let camel context or some spi / api to be triggered when an endpoint called crateProducer / createConsumer08:30
jstrachanyeha08:30
davsclausthen we could keep 100% tap what is created or not08:30
davsclaustoday that logic is only happening within the component08:30
jstrachanactually thats a great point - as there's so many ways to send to stuff (receipientList - dynamic endpoint names and the like) its kinda hard to konw08:31
davsclausthough if you extend default endpoint we could go down in the future to have some callback or whatnot08:31
jstrachanyeah; would be nice to somehow add a link to the route and endpoint is used from; in terms of mbeans, the endpoints already context specific; just needs an array of { boolean: in; boolean: out; String routeId } objects or something we can attach to the endpoints as they get used from a route08:33
jstrachanmight be hard to ensure we always set that though; there's so many places we send from etc08:33
jstrachanI guess at least the in is easy ;)08:34
davsclauswhen the route is created we do setup those mbeans you see today08:34
davsclausi guess when a producer is to be created08:35
davsclauswe would know its endpoint08:35
davsclausand maybe be able to lookup the mbean endpoint and add that detail ^^^08:35
jstrachanyeah08:35
davsclauswhat also has been bothering a bit is that from an endpoint08:35
davsclausyou wanna know if its in use08:35
davsclausif a producer is stopped its hard to know for sure08:35
davsclauseg like AMQ keep tracks on producers/consumers etc08:36
davsclauson queues / topics08:36
jstrachanyeah08:36
davsclauskinda the same picture for camel with endpoiints as queues/topics08:36
davsclausthat information is lost in camel in the nevereverland08:36
davsclausalso it helps to know for sure with resource management08:37
davsclauswhen stopping a route to avoid stopping resources on a shared endpoint that is already in use etc and whatnot08:37
davsclauswe do in some components have our own book keeping like the jms08:37
jstrachanah - the Exchange has getFromRouteId() - so maybe for sending we just make sure we ensure we add the routeId to the set of out route ids?08:37
* davsclaus lunch08:37
jstrachanand we automatically add the input endpoints to a separate set?08:37
jstrachanmaybe even simpler - we just add a hook so as we invoke a producer, for a camel context we can add the routeId on the Exchange to the route mbeans's set of output endpoints?08:38
jstrachan(could be an optional interceptor/flag maybe)08:38
jstrachanhttp://camel.apache.org/maven/current/camel-core/apidocs/org/apache/camel/Exchange.html#getFromRouteId()08:39
jstrachanmaybe its something, say, the ManagedSendProcessor can do? keeps track of the set of routes its called from; and if a new route id comes along - it adds it to the managedEndpoint bean?08:41
jstrachanshould be fairly efficient as the ManagedSendProcessor is created with a single destination usually; so it can lookup the managed endpoint for that destination too; then just invoke a method on it when its called? - we could then add a counter to the endpoint too maybe?08:44
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davsclausyeah that is runtime specific09:01
davsclauswould be nice to know this at route create time09:01
jstrachanthough I guess with dynamic receipientList / routing slip and so forth sometimes runtimes all you have09:02
jstrachanbut yeah - whenever know at build time it'd be good to know! :)09:02
davsclausyeah 2 sides of the coin09:02
davsclausthose dynamic endpoints is not enlisted as mbeans by default09:03
jstrachanyeah - e.g. with runtime stuff you don't know anything until you get a message ;)09:03
jstrachanah gotcha09:03
davsclausas that could add 1000s of mbeans and eat up memory09:03
davsclausppl need to turn on a flag if they really want that09:03
jstrachanso yeah - lets focus on compile time / startup time first ;)09:03
davsclausthe exchange has a message history09:03
davsclaushttp://camel.apache.org/message-history.html09:03
davsclauswith all the nodes it went09:04
jstrachancoolio09:04
jstrachanbbiab - gotta pop out; viewing...09:04
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github[hawtio] davsclaus pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/QWs7ww09:35
githubhawtio/master 6791a69 Claus Ibsen: Fixed log plugin to use test-info css style for info logging.09:35
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github[hawtio] davsclaus pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/FbcXWA10:32
githubhawtio/master d98bff1 Claus Ibsen: #839: Added clear messages button to Camel tracer10:32
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jstrachandavsclaus who-hoo - got a first cut of a camel  context / endpoint diagram ;)10:35
jstrachanjust gonna polish a little and will push soon...10:36
davsclausah was wondering what took you so long :)10:36
jstrachan;)10:36
jstrachannicely it just now appears in the Diagram tab in the camel plugin if you select anything else but a route10:36
davsclausah10:36
davsclausyeah maybe we should have a sub tab for it or something10:37
jstrachandoing the fabric flavour of it shortly - started with single vm view first; the code should mostly work on fabric too10:37
davsclausi kinda think its a bit "magic" when it appears for users10:37
davsclauslike on amq when you click around10:37
davsclaussometimes you see it other times you dont10:37
jstrachanyeah - in many ways the MQ diagram should work the same - use 1 view and just filter by destination  if a destination is selected10:37
davsclausnot so "easy" to figure out its realated to what selected in trree and whatnot10:37
atoonijstrachan: is that another one of those diagrams ?10:37
jstrachanI guess the 'flow' diagram and the 'connections' diagram is a bit different10:37
jstrachanatooni yeah! like the MQ fabric one - but for camel contexts / endpoints10:38
jstrachanatooni based on your awesome force layout malarkey10:38
atoonilove the sound of that10:38
davsclausbtw i managed in the same time, to change an icon class in a <i> and add a button :) -- who who friday on a roll :)10:38
atoonican't wait for christmas vacation to get my hands dirty with it again10:38
jstrachan;)10:38
jstrachandavsclaus lol10:38
jstrachandavsclaus though I mostly just copy/pasted this diagram from the mq one ;) so I kinda cheated10:39
atoonidavsclaus....time to go home now ...enough done for one day10:39
atoonicopy / paste screams for abstraction :)10:39
jstrachanyeah ;)10:39
jstrachanatooni though there's not much code to share TBH - apart from maybe the couple of functions I tend to use to lazily create nodes and add links etc10:40
atoonihave fun ....nodd to go to the real world for a bit longer10:40
atoonineed10:40
davsclausatooni yeah that wont be a long walk :)10:40
atoonicant wait to have a go at it10:40
jstrachanthis fn https://github.com/hawtio/hawtio/blob/master/hawtio-web/src/main/webapp/app/fabric/js/brokerDiagram.ts#L607 and the link fns could move to the graph builder maybe10:41
jstrachanright quick swim then I polish and commit...10:42
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atoonithat looks awesome10:43
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githubhawtio/master 3248410 Jonathan Anstey: #841 break build cycle with fabric13:54
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github[hawtio] janstey pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/LNSs9Q14:01
githubhawtio/master 8b0b6a8 Jonathan Anstey: Revert "#841 break build cycle with fabric"...14:01
githubhawtio/master 7ce1bb5 Jonathan Anstey: #841 break build cycle with fabric - without any grunt generated cruft :)14:01
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github[hawtio] gashcrumb pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/RzulNg15:10
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githubhawtio/master bbb0feb James Strachan: fabric implementation of #840 so we can query all containers with camel in them and create a unified diagram15:19
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jstrachanok just pushed the first cut of the camel force diagram; showing endpoints & camel contexts; either locally or across the entire fabric15:19
jstrachanjust needs a bit more polish (e.g. to show containers/routes)15:20
jstrachanshows real time metrics on the endpoints/contexts you hover over too15:20
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jstrachanslewis just tried using tabs for the preferences - much nicer!18:04
jstrachangetting a slightly wacky codemirror - sometimes doesnt' render unti you click on it thingy18:04
jstrachanother than that its awesome18:04
jstrachanbizarre - its fine again now ;)18:08
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jstrachanmight be nice to put Preferences > before the tabs maybe; other than that its much nicer! :)18:11
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githubhawtio/master 081923b Stan Lewis: Improve toc highlighting also tweak the links back to the top18:57
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