Monday, 2015-01-05

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joonas_hello11:20
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tcrawleyjoonas__: morning!11:42
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joonas__any tips how to get datomic running with immutant2?14:05
jcrossley3joonas__: do you need immutant's messaging lib?14:06
joonas__not at the moment, no14:06
jcrossley3well, that's the only one that conflicts with datomic, due to each using a different version of hornetq14:07
jcrossley3so when you specify your deps, exclude immutant/messaging14:07
joonas__I see, thanks for the tip14:08
jcrossley3joonas__: are you running in wildfly or not?14:08
joonas__Infinispan seems good choice as datomic backend, riak needs zookeeper and makes things more complicated14:08
joonas__no wildfly14:09
jcrossley3are you seeing a particular error mixing datomic with immutant2? without wildfly, i think you can use imm2 messaging with datomic if you exclude immutant's version of hornetq14:10
jcrossley3i think14:10
jcrossley3i agree infinispan is a convenient choice, but it can be complicated to setup in a way that guarantees no data loss during extreme edge cases, e.g. disk failure14:12
jcrossley3everything is a tradeoff :)14:12
joonas__I fixed the errors with [com.datomic/datomic-pro "0.9.5078" :exclusions [joda-time commons-codec]] and [org.immutant/caching "2.0.0-beta1" :exclusions [org.jboss.logging/jboss-logging org.clojure/tools.reader]]14:13
jcrossley3cool14:15
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tcrawleycap10morgan: hey, you mentioned two wildfly issues last week - are you still seeing those?19:33
tcrawleyI couldn't recreate the NPE with a messaging-only war19:33
tcrawleyso if you can recreate that, the stack would be helpful19:33
cap10morgantcrawley: I haven't checked again, so I assume so. I'll see if I can make a minimal steps to reproduce version of that19:34
tcrawleyI haven't yet tried to recreate the non-closing listener issue19:34
cap10morganOK19:34
tcrawleythanks!19:34
tcrawleyrkneufeld: I can't come up with a good way to share a c.t.logging logger with Immutant internals without reifying a slf4j Logger around it, which kinda defeats the purpose of using boot-logservice.19:36
rkneufeldtcrawley: No worries, thanks for giving it a look.19:37
tcrawleyhow are you working around it currently? spitting out a logback.xml to the classpath?19:37
rkneufeldYes19:37
tcrawleyI could get all messages logged from clojure by immutant to use c.t.l, but that would still leave anything logged from java and the components (HornetQ, Undertow, Infinispan, etc) out in the cold19:39
tcrawleyI'll keep thinking about it though19:39
tcrawleyI hate logging19:39
tcrawleyso I love to think about it19:40
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michaniskintcrawley: i was thinking that maybe boot should be using c.t.l itself instead of printing via println, would that be sane?19:42
michaniskinso boot task output can be part of the general logger configuration for the project19:42
tcrawleymichaniskin: I think that's sane, though it may impact startup time. I recollect that c.t.l's logging impl lookup is slow (for some definition of slow)19:44
tcrawleyI'll try to be even more vague in the future19:45
michaniskinhaha i see19:45
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jcrossley3michaniskin: thanks in advance for not creating another logging library20:19
michaniskinjcrossley3: hahaha20:19
michaniskinonly build tools and everything else in the world20:19
michaniskinwe draw the line at logging20:20
jcrossley3:)20:21
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