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deadghostI'm not sure how to actually start the message queue11:10
deadghosthttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/29389235/how-to-start-immutant-message-queue11:10
jbossbotTitle: clojure - How to start immutant message queue? - Stack Overflow11:10
deadghosthelp would be appreciated11:10
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tcrawleydeadghost: https://projectodd.ci.cloudbees.com/job/immutant2-incremental/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/target/apidocs/immutant.messaging.html#var-queue starts the queue11:31
tcrawleysee https://projectodd.ci.cloudbees.com/job/immutant2-incremental/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/target/apidocs/guide-messaging.html for examples11:31
tcrawleyin 1.x, you could do (msg/start "a-queue") (msg/listen "a-queue" f), but in 2.x, msg/start has been replaced by msg/queue and msg/topic, and you have to pass the return value of one of those fns to anything that needs a queue11:32
tcrawleyso (msg/listen (msg/queue "a-queue") f)11:33
deadghostok tcrawley I think I understand11:36
tcrawleyhave you used messaging before in 1.x, or is it new to you altogether?11:37
deadghostmy first foray into messaging11:37
tcrawleygotcha11:37
deadghostin addition when configuring hornetq outside of wildfly11:38
deadghostit says to place the config xml files on the classpath11:38
deadghostwhere is the typical place to place them11:38
tcrawley<app-root>/resources/ would be the typical place11:38
tcrawleyyou have two primary ways for a queue to be used - with a listener (via msg/listen, that processes the message w/o a reply), and you send to it with msg/publish, or with a responder (via msg/respond, that processes the message and returns the return value), and you send to it with msg/request11:40
tcrawleywhich gives you back a java Future you can @/deref11:40
tcrawleythe example given on your SO question is a immutant 1.x responder, set up to call any function (I haven't seen that pattern before)11:41
deadghostwhich example?11:43
deadghostyou mean -main?11:43
tcrawleyno, the example in the first answer11:44
egliweird answer. Seems way too complicated11:45
deadghostagreed, what is it even doing11:45
tcrawleyit basically allows you to call any function over messaging. basically using messaging as a function proxy11:46
tcrawleyand it definitely is too complicated as an answer to your question :)11:46
eglideadghost: afaik you do not need to "start" a queue11:47
eglijust publish to it11:48
tcrawleyegli: you do need to call msg/queue or msg/topic, which "starts" the destination11:48
egli(msg/publish (msg/queue "foo") "my fancy message")11:48
tcrawleybut you have to call either of those anyway to call publish, yeah11:49
eglihttp://immutant.org/documentation/current/apidoc/immutant.messaging.html#var-queue11:49
jbossbotTitle: immutant.messaging documentation11:49
egli"Establishes a handle to a messaging queue"11:49
deadghostafter that, I can publish to the host and port from another application yes?11:50
eglideadghost: I haven't done that but I would assume that you can yes11:51
tcrawleycorrect, you can do (with-open [ctx (msg/context :host "foo" :port 5445)] (msg/publish (msg/queue "bar" :context ctx) {:a :message}))11:51
deadghostok I think I understand how it all works now11:54
deadghostI'll try implementing it in a bit11:54
tcrawleywe're here for you11:54
deadghostI actually still don't know what half the stuff in immutant does11:55
deadghostbut I get the feeling I'll eventually use a good chunk of them11:55
deadghostalright thanks guys11:55
tcrawleymy pleasure!11:56
egliany idea how I can connect to a remote wildfly using visualvm?12:02
egliseems like I need a jmx or a jstatd connection12:04
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eglihttp://www.mastertheboss.com/jboss-server/wildfly-8/monitoring-wildfly-using-visualvm12:07
jbossbotTitle: Monitoring WildFly using VisualVM12:07
tcrawleyegli: yes, connecting to a remote WF instance is painful12:08
eglithat sounds nice12:08
eglibasically I'm just trying to find out why my wildfly process still has open files according to lsof12:09
eglihehe, step #25: "That's all! Enjoy VisualVM with WildFly!"12:10
eglican I find open file handles in the repl?12:11
tcrawleyhmm, I don't know how you could do that12:13
tcrawleyWF would still have open files as long as it is running though. does it have too many open?12:14
egliI get the darned .nfs files which are owned by wildfly12:14
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tcrawleyah, nfs. is there any way to determine what original file the .nfs file is a marker for?12:18
egliyes, they are WAV files that I was trying to delete with a walk-file-tree12:19
eglihttps://github.com/ToBeReplaced/nio.file/blob/master/walkthrough.clj12:20
eglithe wav files are gone but the .nfs files are still there12:20
egliI don't think my process ever opens the wav files12:21
tcrawleydoes any other process on that box?12:21
egliyes, a separate process that I invoke12:22
eglibut that should be long gone12:22
eglilet me check12:22
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egliyes it's gone12:23
eglimaybe my walk-file-tree leaks file handles when it throws an exception12:24
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eglihm, that's weird. Now the .nfs files are gone. gc?12:32
eglianyway probably OT for this channel12:33
tcrawleyhmm, maybe gc did free up something that was holding the file ref12:33
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eglimaybe my visitor12:34
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GitHub146wunderboss/master 2a6e09b Toby Crawley: Clean up javadoc just enough to build with java 8.12:57
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jcrossley3tcrawley: boy, you're ready, aren't you?!13:04
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projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Clean up javadoc just enough to build with java 8.13:06
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: [maven-release-plugin] prepare release 0.5.013:06
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tcrawleyjcrossley3: well, we need a few hours for that to make it to central, so I thought I'd go ahead and light it up13:12
jcrossley3tcrawley: i don't think we can release on april fool's13:14
jcrossley3but there is some symmetry about releasing "The Deuce" on the 2nd13:15
tcrawleyI hate april fool's day13:15
jcrossley3there's not much you don't hate13:15
tcrawleytrue13:16
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charliekilostupid question: when deploying a i2 war to a standalone-full WildFly instance, is a queue defined/configured within WildFly itself considered a remote queue (and I need to supply a context) or still an internal one?13:27
jcrossley3charliekilo: internal13:28
charliekiloso only when connecting from outside the container or to a standalone HornetQ instance, is it considered remote13:29
jcrossley3and not a stupid question. i only recently learned the answer. :)13:29
jcrossley3correct, separate jvm is remote13:29
charliekilo@jcrossley3 or, makes sense13:30
charliekilothanks13:30
jcrossley3charliekilo: np!13:30
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jcrossley3charliekilo: fwiw, we just added some docs around that: https://projectodd.ci.cloudbees.com/job/immutant2-incremental/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/target/apidocs/guide-messaging.html#h320513:31
jcrossley3the note at the bottom is relevant to you13:31
charliekilo@jcrossley3 oh, I see ... very nice!13:32
jcrossley3charliekilo: after you try it, let us know if the docs are wrong :)13:32
charliekilo@jcrossley3 fwiw, I was able to connect to a standalone HornetQ instance w/o any problems (using i2) ... that was a while ago, while playing around and thinking about different deployment scenarios13:34
jcrossley3coolio13:35
jcrossley3tcrawley: any comments on my doc changes? or as long as the messaging TODO is gone, you're good? :)13:38
tcrawleyjcrossley3: I read through it yesterday, and it looks good. I don't even remember what all the items in the TODO list were, so don't remind me :)13:45
jcrossley3tcrawley: there were only two, and i covered them.13:45
tcrawleyyay!13:45
tcrawleyI'm going to stub out the announcements for immutant and lein-immutant13:45
tcrawleyand date them for tamari13:46
jcrossley3weird, i know a girl named tamari and thought, "wtf are we doing anything for her?"13:47
tcrawleyweird, I know a girl named Ketchup.13:48
tcrawleywtf names their kid after a condiment?13:48
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jcrossley3tcrawley: pb13:49
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jbossbotTitle: First crack at a release announcement. · immutant/immutant.org@76f6f68 · GitHub14:10
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jbossbotgit [immutant] push thedeuce 3ebbefe.. Jim Crossley Mention unsubscribe19:34
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jcrossley3tcrawley: how do you feel about publishing the survey results tomorrow and in that post, announce that Final is going to be released monday?19:46
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tcrawleywhy wait until Monday?19:46
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jcrossley3just to avoid two posts tomorrow really :)19:47
jcrossley3but i'm flexible19:47
jcrossley3you have a pref?19:47
tcrawleythe sooner we get it out, the better :)19:48
tcrawleybut I agree that it would be better to not do two posts on one day19:49
tcrawleyand I don't want to release on Friday19:49
jcrossley3yeah, my thoughts exactly19:49
jcrossley3i could put the results out now19:49
jcrossley3but we need to hide your pre-release to publish19:49
tcrawleydo you have a post analyzing them in some way?19:49
jcrossley3"analyzing"19:50
jcrossley3i can push what i have19:50
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GitHub189immutant.org/master 2ded029 Jim Crossley: Survey results19:53
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jcrossley3tcrawley: ^19:59
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tcrawleyuhm, I may have just screwed uo19:59
tcrawleyup19:59
tcrawleyyeah, I did19:59
tcrawleyfixing19:59
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jcrossley3what'd you do?20:01
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jbossbotTitle: Commits · immutant/immutant.org · GitHub20:05
tcrawleyjcrossley3: fixed it. man, the wifi here sucks20:07
tcrawleyso, I accidentally pushed the survey20:07
tcrawleythen, when trying to fix it, somehow pushed a 2 year old head to production20:07
tcrawleyffs20:07
tcrawleybut it's good now20:07
tcrawleymy *plan* was to make a branch for the survey that branched before my commit this morning20:07
projectodd-ciProject immutant.org-production build #195: SUCCESS in 3 min 31 sec: https://projectodd.ci.cloudbees.com/job/immutant.org-production/195/20:08
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Update jobs tutorial.20:08
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Add stub for release announcement.20:08
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Add 0.9.0 release.20:08
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Point at the staged version until we build the real release.20:08
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: today -> tomorrow20:08
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Cleverness inserted20:08
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Highlights20:08
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Move release to today; edits.20:08
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Use release repo instead of staging.20:08
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Rickey Minor20:08
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Mynah bird, fo'shizzle20:08
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Update latest plugin version.20:08
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Update plugin version.20:08
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Screencast post20:08
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: More var-quoting ring handler encouragement20:08
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: immutant.clj -> init.clj20:08
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Add c/w unsession.20:08
jcrossley3tcrawley: https://instagram.com/p/08Xgcqutqv/20:09
jbossbotTitle: Instagram20:09
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Fix layout of releases pane.20:09
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Update releasing instructions.20:09
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Evolve20:09
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: More stuff20:09
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Hiding for now20:09
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Unfurl betterer20:09
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Another stab at excitement20:09
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Update installation for newer plugin; various cleanup/fixes.20:09
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Let's call them variants.20:09
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Adjust tutorials for list command changes.20:09
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Adjust tutorials and install instructions for ~/.immutant20:09
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Update plugin version.20:09
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Add plugin post.20:09
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Out of the darkness.20:09
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Crosslinking. You know, for SEO.20:09
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Less beef.20:09
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: :latest => LATEST20:09
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Ssh, don't even bring it up.20:09
jcrossley3tcrawley: are you sure you did that right?20:09
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Orko?20:09
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Man-E-Faces20:09
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: I should really figure out how to install awestruct20:09
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Set the correct default replication mode20:09
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Plugin release announcement.20:09
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Earl.20:09
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Immutant clustering on OpenShift20:09
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: E minor20:09
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Points for using 'mitigate' and 'ostensibly' in the same sentence20:09
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Mention possible errors20:09
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Most of Lance's feedback20:09
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Change DC:JBUG talk date.20:09
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Add info on using incremental artifacts.20:09
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Thank JetBrains.20:09
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Typo. Thanks @marianoguerra!20:09
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Ronly Bonly.20:09
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Minor.20:09
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: A few highlights20:09
jcrossley3these messages aren't confidence-inducing20:09
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Adjust for new development docs.20:09
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Move and update annc skel.20:09
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Update plugin version.20:09
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Add plugin announcement.20:09
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: reword.20:09
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Highlight/link some stuff20:09
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Minor20:09
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Let's sit on this for a bit20:09
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Taking a shot20:09
tcrawleydid my explanation above come through?20:09
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Mention the plugin20:09
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Fix video link; adjust fanout wording.20:09
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Immutant as a Datomic Storage Service20:09
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Stay consistent20:09
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Feedback from Ben/Toby20:09
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Add unsession.20:09
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Mention the new starter edition20:09
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Stupid markdown20:09
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Update plugin version on site.20:09
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Grammar20:10
tcrawleywhat we're seeing is two years of commits20:10
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Typo.20:10
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Update date20:10
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Removed some references to the full distro20:10
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Incorporate Kanwei's feedback20:10
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Add CLA note to dev page.20:10
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Show the config to mount the app at the root context20:10
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Obsolete jobs article and point to the tutorial.20:10
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Use the correct clojure version for the build report.20:10
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Update to display 1.6.0 builds.20:10
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Update the build column header as well.20:10
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Maybe I'll get this right someday.20:10
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Taking a whack20:10
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Minor20:10
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: A couple more notes20:10
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: A bit about where we're building it20:10
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Montgomery Brewster.20:10
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Spike Nolan.20:10
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Websockets20:10
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Reflects options back in the tail, etc20:10
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Better title?20:10
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Feedback incorporated20:10
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Clean up builds page.20:10
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Hopefully finish this tomorrow20:10
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Take II20:10
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Flesh out the clj-time example with a cron example20:10
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Tweakage20:10
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Change semantics slightly20:10
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Fix bug and inc incremental20:10
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Image plus edits.20:10
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Note that build 62 is no more.20:10
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Clickable20:10
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Add TriClojure talk.20:10
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: minor.20:10
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: simplify.20:10
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Add Den of Clojure talk.20:10
jcrossley3tcrawley: wtf have you done? :)20:10
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Future tutorials20:10
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Fix link20:10
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Weirdly, this seems to break the next header20:10
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Adjust Den of Clojure talk date.20:10
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Add lein-immutant 1.2.2 release annc.20:10
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Add 1.1.4 release announcement.20:10
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: emphasis.20:10
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Thanks Jimbo!20:10
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Finally updated the web tutorial, sheesh!20:10
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Update pedestal20:10
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Update web tutorial last modified date.20:10
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Restore git links to 2x builds.20:10
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Add license for site content [fixes #3]20:10
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Link to the 1.x tutorials from the 2.x tutorial index. [fixes #8]20:10
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Search all the actions for the SHA, we don't care which one has it.20:10
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Note new license for 2.x20:10
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Make it clear that doc/api links are for 1.x.20:10
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: A whack at a caching tut20:10
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: A bit more about web in wf20:11
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: First cut at a logging tutorial.20:11
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Edits.20:11
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Rework logging tutorial.20:11
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Minor edits, and a convenient link20:11
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Oops!20:11
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: More edits.20:11
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Update 1.x plugin version.20:11
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: crosslink incremental build pages.20:11
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Add rel='nofollow' to 1x links.20:11
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Silly ruby.20:11
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Update triclojure talk with event url.20:11
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Add a loading image for builds.20:11
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Whitespace.20:11
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Add transit post.20:11
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Edits.20:11
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Remove links to 2.x tutorials; point towards guides in the docs.20:11
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Fix tutorial link on index page.20:11
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Minor20:11
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Typos20:11
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: A few updates20:11
projectodd-ci* Jim Crossley: Feedbacks from Toblerone20:11
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Try to use json instead of jsonp.20:11
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: See if we can proxy to https.20:11
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Let's give CORS a try.20:11
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: No need to proxy.20:11
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Restore proxying now that SSLProxyEngine is enabled.20:11
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Load json async.20:11
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Remove unneeded CORS header.20:11
projectodd-ci* Toby Crawley: Add clojure/west unsession to talks.20:11
tcrawleyyay!20:11
tcrawleydone20:11
tcrawleyanyway20:11
jcrossley3are you sure?20:11
tcrawleyyes, because that's the most recent commit20:11
jcrossley3i'm not sure working from the toyota dealership was your best idea20:12
jcrossley3so what were we talking about?20:12
tcrawleyit's not the wifi's fault, it's me trying to use more of magit's features, and getting it wrong20:12
tcrawleybut it was harder to fix because the wifi crapped out20:12
tcrawleyso I had to tether the phone20:12
jcrossley3survey results? i'm not sure there are any relevatory insights to gain from it.20:13
jcrossley3reveletory?20:13
tcrawleyI feel like we should have something more to say than "here you go!"20:13
jcrossley3tcrawley: why?20:14
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jbossbotTitle: Survey results · immutant/immutant.org@d5e7d4e · GitHub20:14
jcrossley3you pushed to prod?20:14
tcrawleyFFS20:15
tcrawleysomething must be whack in my git config20:15
tcrawleywhy would "git push origin survey -u" push to the production branch?20:15
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jcrossley3i didn't know you could put the -u at the end like that20:16
jcrossley3tcrawley: what'd you learn from the survey?20:17
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jbossbotTitle: Commits · immutant/immutant.org · GitHub20:18
tcrawleyI'm not sure, my plan was to think about that if I can ever fucking figure out git20:19
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jcrossley3:)20:19
jcrossley3you kinda remind me of lance|afk sometimes :)20:19
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GitHub193[immutant.org] tobias created survey (+1 new commit): http://git.io/jxuB20:20
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jbossbotTitle: Survey results · immutant/immutant.org@d5e7d4e · GitHub20:20
tcrawleyfucking finally20:20
tcrawleythere's the survey on a branch20:20
jcrossley3good?20:21
jcrossley3i would've thought you'd put the 2 annc on its own branch :)20:21
jcrossley3but DON'T TRY IT NOW! :)20:21
tcrawleysame diff20:22
jcrossley3punny20:22
tcrawleyI'm going to ignore you for a while20:22
jcrossley3i'm waiting for an answer to my question, like you often are20:23
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projectodd-ciJim Crossley: Mention unsubscribe20:32
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jcrossley3tcrawley: wb!20:54
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tcrawleyjcrossley3: did you not find a way to cull the responses?20:57
jcrossley3you mean omit our'n?20:59
jcrossley3tcrawley: no20:59
jcrossley3do you feel like that's critical?20:59
tcrawleynot really, but our test entries skew the numbers a bit21:00
jcrossley3significantly?21:00
tcrawley1/32 of the responses were tests, so things are skewed by ~3%?21:02
tcrawleybut this isn't a drug trial21:02
jcrossley3it isn't?21:02
jcrossley3the internal data center might be worth mentioning21:03
jcrossley3along with ec221:03
jcrossley3maybe mention web, but that feels a little sales-y21:04
jcrossley3maybe mention clustering, too21:05
jcrossley3that surprised me a bit21:05
jcrossley3is this thing on?21:06
tcrawleycan we postpone the survey post until tomorrow?21:08
tcrawleyI want to think about it a bit more21:08
tcrawleyand can't do that well in my current environment21:08
jcrossley3tcrawley: sure!21:08
tcrawleydonkey!21:08
jcrossley3i'm gonna add a few more notes21:08
tcrawleykk!21:10
tcrawleyput them on either branch, I can screw things up just as easily from one vs the other21:11
jcrossley3i'm only in master. you prefer otherwise?21:11
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tcrawleydoesn't matter21:14
tcrawleyput it on master and I'll cherry-pick to the survey branch before we deploy to prod21:14
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projectodd-ciJim Crossley: Minor21:23
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tcrawleyjcrossle_: how do you feel about adding :status and :headers? https://gist.github.com/917d0ea5680f43a66d6c22:55
tcrawleythat lets us handle more use cases (this came up because I'm trying to write an immutant adapter for https://github.com/dgrnbrg/spiral), and we need to be able to do that22:56
tcrawleybut I think it's cleaner than http-kit, where you pass a map as the message instead22:56
tcrawleyI have it all working locally, it wasn't difficult to implement22:57
tcrawleyit just means I need to release wboss again :)22:57
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