Tuesday, 2015-04-28

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egliI suspect my problem has nothing to do with messaging but with transaction retry.08:36
eglihttps://gist.github.com/egli/cbd09eff43cc91b41f0308:44
egliIt appears that one of my transactions is taking a long time and the reaper cancels it08:47
egliI'm going to try to increase the timeout of the reaper08:47
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eglithere is no such thing as a timeout of the reaper. Each transaction has a timeout. The default can be set via Configuration>Container>Transactions>Common>Default Timeout13:37
eglithat seems to do the trick13:37
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jcrossley3egli: yay!13:42
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eglijcrossley3: that might have been just wishful thinking14:14
eglithere seems to be some disconnect in the way of my understanding of transactions14:15
egliit is as if transactions retry and then warn me about ARJUNA012077: Abort called on already aborted atomic action 0:ffff7f000101:-395720c8:553e5da0:147314:16
jcrossley3egli: do you know why the tx is failing?14:26
egliI used to think it timed out14:28
egliI have txn a which puts smth on a queue14:28
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jcrossley3egli: i wouldn't expect that to happen. can you reproduce that easily?14:35
egliI was going to try to reproduce it but now I'm in fire fighting mode :-/14:36
egliI'll try14:36
jcrossley3egli: you can disable the reaper, shown in TORQUE-90614:36
jbossbotjira [TORQUE-906] Long-running backgroundable tasks cause the Arjuna reaper to retry [Closed (Done) Bug, Major, Jim Crossley] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/TORQUE-90614:36
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eglijcrossley3: ah, thanks, I'll try that14:39
jcrossley3egli: also, look at IMMUTANT-35614:40
jbossbotjira [IMMUTANT-356] Puzzling XAResource recovery warnings [Resolved (Won't Fix) Bug, Major, Jim Crossley] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/IMMUTANT-35614:40
eglithat sounds like smth else to me14:43
jcrossley3egli: possibly, but something to be aware of if you don't cleanly shutdown14:44
egliah ok14:44
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sundbphi. i'm looking at this ticket: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/IMMUTANT-46715:22
jbossbotjira [IMMUTANT-467] Datomic HornetQ Conflicts with WildFly [Resolved (Done) Bug, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/IMMUTANT-46715:22
sundbpif i have a project with immutant 2.0.0 (messaging and txns), and datomic 0.9.5780 - and run lein deps :tree i see a ton of warnings.15:22
sundbpis that expected?15:22
jcrossley3sundbp: howdy15:36
jcrossley3probably. they share a number of deps, e.g. hornetq15:36
sundbpyes, it's been my biggest problem for a while that immutant clashes so badly with datomic.15:38
jcrossley3sundbp: you're not in wildfly, right?15:38
sundbpour current immutant v1 and datomic setup is a real hack with a ton of exclusions and manually curated dependencies that makes both work. moving to v2 i'd hope to exclude15:39
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sundbpi'm not in wildfly15:40
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jcrossley3sundbp: i think IMMUTANT-497 is your issue :(15:41
jbossbotjira [IMMUTANT-497] Immutant messaging and datomic can't be used together outside of WildFly [Open (Unresolved) Bug, Major, Unassigned] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/IMMUTANT-49715:41
sundbpyeah15:41
sundbpi could be using wildfly, but i'd much prefer to not have to for dev etc.15:42
jcrossley3understood15:42
jcrossley3have you spoken to those guys about updating?15:42
sundbpbut even if using wildfly it seems to me right now i have a very messy starting poing where i can't really see what are clashes i can ignore and not15:43
sundbpjcrossley3: yes, for a long time. they seem very slow in moving :(15:43
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jcrossley3sundbp: i *think* you can ignore the dep warnings if you're running in WF15:46
jcrossley3tcrawley: ^ is that true?15:46
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tcrawleyjcrossley3: sundbp: you can exclude away the immutant HQ deps in WildFly, and just use the HQ datomic brings in because Immutant messaging doesn't use any HQ deps in-container, only JMS apis.16:40
tcrawleyoutside of WF, you simply *can't* use immmutant.messaging and Datomic in the same app16:40
tcrawleyuntil datomic upgrades16:40
jcrossley3tcrawley: but you must exclude hq deps for it to work in-container?16:42
jcrossley3we're probably not clear about that anywhere16:42
tcrawleyit depends on the dep warnings. if they show the Immutant versions of HQ "winning", they'll need to be excluded16:43
tcrawleyotherwise, datomic will try to load those instead of its own16:43
jcrossley3ah16:43
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deadghostdid datomic guys give an eta on HQ dep upgrade?17:01
jcrossley3deadghost: doubtful17:11
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jcrossley3but i would encourage you to ask them17:12
deadghostalright, so it's a don't count on it17:13
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iankentgot a question about logging within wildfly18:27
iankentwe use timbre for logging18:27
iankentthe logs are always routed to stdout and stderr loggers in wildfly18:27
iankent(:require taoensso.timbre :as log) (log/infof "Ingest completed: %s" filename)18:28
iankent2015-04-16 00:00:02,745 INFO  [stdout] (async-dispatch-8) 2015-Apr-16 00:00:02 +0000 localhost INFO [cenx.naranathu.ingest] - Ingest completed: /opt/sync/SAM-18:28
iankentyou can see message from timbre logger is nested in stdout logger18:28
iankentnot clear from docs how to fix this18:30
iankenthttp://immutant.org/documentation/current/apidoc/guide-logging.html18:30
jbossbotTitle: Immutant 2.0.0 API documentation18:30
tcrawleyiankent: let me take a look at the timbre config, one sec18:56
sundbptcrawley: ok. got it, so exclude the immutant ones, leave datomic inside wildfly.19:01
tcrawleysundbp: yes, that should work19:02
sundbptcrawley: btw, I think we managed to get immutant.messaging and datomic to work ok in latest immutant v1. required a lot of hocus pocus on exclusions and manually added dependencies, but for our use case got it to run.19:02
sundbptcrawley: i say "think" as i'm not sure if it's fully working or just the functionality that we happen to use.19:02
tcrawleyit would be tough to do that in v2, since we now use JMS2 interfaces, which was added to HQ in a minor release between Datomic's version and ours19:03
sundbptcrawley: I think I've come up with a way to use the txn report queue of datomic instead of immutant messaging, so gonna have a go at that here first.19:04
tcrawleycool19:04
tcrawleyiankent: I haven't used timbre, but according to the readme, it has some sort of tools.logging support. It may "just work" if you bring in tools.logging as a dep19:05
sundbptcrawley:  it is the one thing that would make me a lot more likely to use immutant in more cases here though - the comment at the end of that issue suggesting there's a plan for solving datomic+immutant.messaging would be great if it becomes reality :_19:05
tcrawleythe only solutions currently are them upgrading or us downgrading, the latter being quite a rewrite against JMS119:06
iankenttcrawley I will give this a try19:33
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tcrawleyiankent: let me know how it goes19:36
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sundbptcrawley-away: yeah. them upgrading is obviously the way to go.20:01
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iankenttcrawley tried adding dependency [org.clojure/tools.logging "0.3.1"] to project.clj and problem still exists20:11
iankent2015-04-28 20:09:27,530 INFO  [stdout] (MSC service thread 1-7) 2015-Apr-28 20:09:27 +0000 5660346d1b36 INFO [cenx.naranathu.system] - Starting event service client.20:12
tcrawleyiankent: would you be willing to throw together a small sample app and file a @jira?20:12
iankentyes20:12
tcrawleyI can poke around with that and see if I can get it working20:12
tcrawleywhere's proddbot?20:12
iankentthanks20:12
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tcrawleythere we go20:13
tcrawley@jira20:13
proddbottcrawley would be happy as an actor in a leading role, my friend, if you would file an issue at https://issues.jboss.org/browse/IMMUTANT20:13
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