Wednesday, 2015-09-02

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jcrossley3tcrawley: did you reply to ZimaBlue re the demo websockets?13:06
tcrawleyno, he was gone by the time I saw his message. did you see him ask elsewhere?13:07
jcrossley3looks like a context path issue13:07
jcrossley3no13:08
jcrossley3brb13:08
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tcrawleyjcrossley3: it works for me both locally and on heroku13:09
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tcrawleyjcrossley3: ah, I forgot, it works on heroku if you use http: instead of https: (I had tested it last night)13:20
tcrawleymaybe we need to use wss: if the page was loaded via https:13:21
jcrossley3huh13:23
tcrawleyyeah, that will work13:23
tcrawleyI just connected to heroku via the console13:23
tcrawleywith wss13:23
jcrossley3i seem to recall something along those lines13:23
jcrossley3tcrawley: you gonna fix that or shall i? i can if you're busy.13:24
tcrawleyyours! :)13:24
jcrossley3kk!13:24
tcrawleywe should ping codefinger when we're done and have him redeploy13:25
jcrossley3oh, that's his?13:25
tcrawleyyeah, he deployed it to heroku for his clojure how-to post13:26
jcrossley3ah13:26
tcrawleyI think13:26
tcrawleyit's not mine, at least :)13:26
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tcrawleyjcrossley3: thanks for replying to Fabio re:EAP, I had forgotten about that email13:34
tcrawleyhmm, markmail isn't archiving the ML any more13:35
tcrawleymaybe we should move to google groups13:36
jcrossley3i have no opinion one way or the other there. either works as well as the other for me.13:37
tcrawleyI think the effort to debug markmail or move to google groups is roughly the same13:38
tcrawleyand the latter may mean less problems in the future13:39
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tcrawleyI'll take a look at what it would take to migrate13:39
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jcrossley3tcrawley: thanks!13:40
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jcrossley3tcrawley: all i ask is that we never post anything at the top of the google group warning folks not to ask questions on SO ;)13:41
tcrawleytoo late!13:41
pdurbinit would be nice if Google Groups had a "data liberation" story: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Data_Liberation_Front13:41
jbossbotTitle: Google Data Liberation Front - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia13:41
tcrawley:)13:41
tcrawleypdurbin: good point13:41
tcrawleypdurbin: we've had a few users ask for GG, since they don't "do email", and managing the ML ourselves has been painful13:42
tcrawleyI'm not enamored with GG, and would probably be happy with something else as long as it had a web/forum interface, email, and was simple to manage13:43
pdurbinI recently looked at a few options for hosting a mailing list: http://www.tricider.com/brainstorming/35xCavRfoBp13:43
jbossbotTitle: Where should http://www.tricider.com/brainstorming/2jbXuCO0CgF be hosted? - brainstorming and voting | tricider13:43
jbossbotTitle: What should the new mailing list by michbarsinai and pdurbin be called? - brainstorming and voting | tricider13:43
tcrawleythat's not encouraging :)13:44
pdurbintcrawley: Mailman 3 just came out. I believe the web/forum interface works fine: http://wiki.list.org/Mailman313:45
jbossbotTitle: Mailman3 - Mailman Wiki13:45
tcrawleymailman3 looks nice, but it puts the management burden on me, unfortunately13:46
pdurbinyeah, I used to be responsible for running email servers. never again :)13:46
tcrawleywe currently use qmail, which is a royal PITA. it worked better before we migrated to a new host, and I can't figure out what's different about the new one13:47
pdurbinI've never run qmail. I'm pretty happy to let other people run email servers.13:53
pdurbinwhich might be evident from my list of options on that tricider poll13:54
tcrawleyheh13:56
pdurbinwell, if Mailman 3 is awesome maybe it's a business opportunity for someone to sell hosting13:57
tcrawleyjust not you or me :)13:57
pdurbinamen13:58
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jproI am trying to use Datomic with the newly released Immutant 2.1.016:15
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jcrossley3and you're having amazing success? ;)16:15
* jcrossley3 is optimistic16:16
jproPreviously, I had success using http://immutant.org/news/2015/08/03/datomic/ option 316:16
jbossbotTitle: Immutant | Using Datomic With Immutant16:16
jproI removed all the exclusions in my project.clj16:16
jcrossley3you'll still need the exclusions, i'm afraid16:17
jcrossley3but you won't need the incremental repo16:17
jprook.  let me give that a try....16:17
jcrossley3both datomic and immutant have a lot of deps, some conflicting. exclusions are a necessary fact of life in a library-centric world16:18
tcrawleyI should update that post with a note about 2.1.0 being out16:19
jcrossley3yeah16:19
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jproafter supplying the exclusions, everything seems to be working :-)16:31
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jcrossley3jpro: yay!16:34
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jproI had been receiving IncompatibleClassChangeError16:34
jprothx for the help16:34
jcrossley3jpro: any time!16:35
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jprois this the appropriate place to ask a question about deploying immutant app to WildFly 9.0.1?17:01
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jcrossley3jpro: sure17:08
jproI am trying to deploy 2 immutants apps, both using Datomic and Immutant Messaging, into a single WildFly container17:11
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jcrossley3jpro: and?17:11
jproI can deploy each app individually just fine, but when I try to deploy the second, the deployment fails with:17:11
jproorg.jboss.msc.service.DuplicateServiceException: Service jboss.pojo.\"org.jboss.netty.internal.LoggerConfigurator\".DESCRIBED is already registered"}17:11
jcrossley3jpro: can you gist the full stacktrace from standalone/log/server.log?17:12
jcrossley3i think you're going to need a netty exclusion somewhere17:13
jproyes, on both questions...17:14
jcrossley3jpro: IMMUTANT-14417:17
jbossbotjira [IMMUTANT-144] Error occurs when deploying two apps that both depend on io.netty/netty [Closed (Done) Bug, Major, Jim Crossley] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/IMMUTANT-14417:17
jcrossley3jpro: jira seems to be sad atm17:17
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jproIMMUTANT-144 solved the problem.  I should have found that one.  My apologies17:34
jbossbotjira [IMMUTANT-144] Error occurs when deploying two apps that both depend on io.netty/netty [Closed (Done) Bug, Major, Jim Crossley] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/IMMUTANT-14417:34
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jcrossley3jpro: no worries! glad to help17:41
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GitHub118[feature-demo] jcrossley3 pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vGMjQ21:26
GitHub118feature-demo/master 0207c32 Jim Crossley: Use wss if https21:26
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jbossbotTitle: Use wss if https · immutant/feature-demo@0207c32 · GitHub21:26
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