Tuesday, 2015-11-03

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bobmcwbbrowning: didja figure out your clustering?15:11
bbrowningbobmcw: not yet, no15:11
bbrowningbobmcw: when I'm viewing a source file in intellij but it won't let me add a breakpoint what is it telling me?15:19
bbrowningthat the source I'm viewing isn't a dep of the project? or just that for some reason I can't debug this?15:19
bobmcwI'd think if it appeared in intellij, it should be considered a source/dependency15:20
bobmcwso, I dunno15:20
bobmcwjboss-modules may confuse it as to what is/is not a dependency maybe15:20
bobmcwkenfinnigan: hey, welcome back!15:22
kenfinniganbobmcw: good to be back!15:23
bbrowningbobmcw: meh I got fedora'd perhaps - exit of intellij and reopen and it lets me now15:23
bobmcwhave fun in SF?15:23
bbrowningI've had similar issues lately where it stops responding to keystrokes or certain mouse clicks15:23
bobmcwgonna do yet-another-release of config-api shortly15:23
bobmcwbbrowning: are you up on Intellij15?15:23
bbrowningno I need to update15:23
bobmcwI had to update some plugins after updating to 1515:23
bbrowningI'm on 13.115:23
bobmcwvi keybindings stopped worked in dependency navigation15:23
kenfinniganbobmcw: was awesome, but surprisingly busy15:26
bobmcwI may jostle wildly-swarm-clustering into wildfly-swarm-jgroups15:32
bbrowningyay? JDWP exit error JVMTI_ERROR_WRONG_PHASE(112): on getting class status [util.c:1285]15:35
bobmcwstop writing C?15:40
bbrowningthis is me trying to debug something in java15:41
bobmcwthis is my in the corner15:50
bobmcwthis is me in the spotlight15:50
bobmcwjcrossley3: hi!15:50
kenfinniganbobmcw: listening to REM?15:50
bobmcwno, but jcrossley3 hates REM15:51
bbrowningoh no I've said too much15:56
jbossbotgit [wildfly-swarm] push master da7d6d4.. Ken Finnigan Add JAX-RS + JSON-P fraction16:00
jbossbotgit [wildfly-swarm] push master URL: http://github.com/wildfly-swarm/wildfly-swarm/commit/da7d6d44916:00
projectodd-ciStarting build #282 for job wildfly-swarm (previous build: SUCCESS)16:01
jcrossley3fuck rem16:15
kenfinniganlanceball: is you're MSA day thing on today? If so, good luck!16:34
bbrowningdoes wildfly do some magic to make modules out of every extension? I can't find the module.xml that defines the "org.wildfly.extension.undertow" module16:40
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bbrowningahh I found it - didn't realize wildfly-feature-pack didn't contain everything16:42
bbrowningand this happens to be in the servlet feature pack16:42
lanceballkenfinnigan: it's tomorrow - travelling today16:50
lanceballbut thanks!16:50
lanceballkenfinnigan: http://lanceball.com/swarm-preso/#/16:50
jbossbotTitle: WildFly Swarm - Microservices in a Java EE World16:50
lanceballI've got an hour and a half before I hit the road for the airport, so feedback will be accepted :)16:50
kenfinniganlanceball: looks good!16:52
helio-frotalanceball, excuse the intrusion16:53
helio-frotabut i liked16:53
lanceballkenfinnigan: I just hope there are some Big Lebowski fans in the audience16:53
lanceballhelio-frota: great - thanks!16:54
helio-frotamainly 19,20,21,2216:54
lanceballexcellent - I'm actually going to break away from the slides there at 22 and show my 'git diff' on that repo, then build and run it16:54
kenfinniganlanceball: lol16:55
helio-frotathe currently 'migration guide' is 19,20,21,22 this is awesome16:57
lanceballhelio-frota: and I stole that from kenfinnigan :)16:57
* lanceball gives credit where due16:57
kenfinniganlanceball: cheers16:58
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bobmcwhello os890, welcome!17:41
os890bobmcw: hi :)17:42
bbrowningbobmcw: so I finally got undertow trying to enable session replication but only by some clustering-related non-optional dependencies to undertow/runtime/module.xml17:54
bbrowningI don't think that will work long-term since it would mean the undertow fraction would now depend on the clustering fraction17:55
bobmcwin this case, we can then create something like undertow-clustered17:55
bobmcwwhich just brings in those modules17:55
bobmcwsee jaxrs-multipart etc17:55
bobmcwor jaxrs-weld17:55
bbrowningthis goes back to the messaging vs messaging-clustered question17:55
bobmcwwhich we use to force optionals to become non-optional, if requested by the user17:55
bbrowningideally I wouldn't have to depend on a separate *-clustered dep but instead just depend on clustering to cluster-enable my bits17:56
bbrowningI think17:56
bbrowningcan we, at runtime, notice the user has both the clustering fraction and the undertow fraction and muck with the undertow module in some way to add these needed deps?17:57
bbrowningif I made these deps optional in the undertow module.xml what exactly happens? they just don't get included in the fatjar?17:58
bbrowningif say clustering fraction had a non-optional dep on them and undertow fraction had an optional dep on them then they would get included in my jar but would undertow find them?17:59
bobmcwwe could conceivably muck with the undertow module, but if they have a -swarm.jar it might be missing jars18:03
bobmcwor if they include -clustering (now -jgroups) then the appropriate optional modules should be available?18:03
bbrowningyeah I think the latter perhaps18:03
bobmcwbasically, if a module is only optional=true, we ignore it, and opt to not include it18:03
bbrowningalthough I dunno - if your app is just using the ribbon bits do you really want us to bring in all of undertow, ispn, etc?18:03
bobmcwif someone else (-jgroups)  brings it in, then it'll be satisfied18:04
bobmcwundertow maybe, but not necessarily infinispan18:04
bbrowningcould be that ribbon depends on jgroups and we add a new clustering module that brings in the things needed for traditional WF clustering18:04
bobmcwI'm in the process of renaming wildfly-swarm-clustering to wildfly-swarm-jgroups18:05
bobmcwso that'd open up -clustering as a name if needed for something else18:05
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bobmcwos890: so... you're a user of -swarm?18:12
bobmcwbbrowning_away: I'm config-api'ing up JGroups now also18:12
bobmcwso I anticipate making your life difficult when I push :)18:12
os890bobmcw: not at the moment i just saw the j1 video from kenfinnigan and wf-swarm and since kenfinnigan is also part of the apache deltaspike pmc i thought it might be nice to have 1-n fraction/s for ds ;)18:14
bobmcwos890: hey, cool!18:15
* bobmcw has no idea what DeltaSpike is, modulo Dan Allen18:15
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bobmcwrbenevides: howdy!18:15
os890i also talked with rbenevides about it :)18:15
rbenevidesbobmcw os890 kenfinnigan hey :)18:15
bobmcwos890: if you wouldn't mind filing an @issue, we can certainly try not to forget about deltaspike18:16
proddbotWe'd be happy as a young lamb if you would file an issue at https://github.com/wildfly-swarm/wildfly-swarm/issues18:16
* bobmcw loves the @issue bot18:16
proddbotWe'd be happy as a poor man with a bag of gold if you would file an issue at https://github.com/wildfly-swarm/wildfly-swarm/issues18:16
rbenevidesbobmcw  +1 :)18:16
rbenevidesos890  Can you do it ?18:17
bobmcwrbenevides: where are you based?18:17
os890rbenevides: i don't have a lot time right now - can you do it quickly?18:17
kenfinniganos890, rbenevides: does DS require WF standalone.xml config for anything?18:17
rbenevidesbobmcw Raleigh18:17
rbenevideskenfinnigan nope (besides the Datasources)18:18
bobmcwrbenevides: ah, cool18:18
* bobmcw is heading to Raleigh North (Westford) tomorrow18:18
kenfinniganrbenevides, os890: that's what I thought, would DS even need its own fraction then?18:18
kenfinniganbobmcw: lol. how long you up in the North for?18:19
os890rbenevides: ds doesn't need the datasources directly - just if you use jpa...18:19
bobmcwonly about 24hrs18:19
bobmcwkenfinnigan: doing dinner with bill burke, if you wanted to swing down?18:19
rbenevidesbobmcw LOL18:19
kenfinniganbobmcw: thanks for offer, but don't fancy fighting Boston traffic ;-)18:20
bobmcw6am flight out of Roanoke in the morning, so I'll be up at 3am tomorrow..18:20
bobmcwback home on thursday18:20
rbenevidesbobmcw I'll borrow the Raleigh North from you18:20
bobmcwkenfinnigan: are you in Boston proper?  I'm staying at the airport hilton tomorrow night18:20
bobmcwjust westford for the day/dinner18:20
kenfinniganbobmcw: I'm about 30 miles south18:20
rbenevidesos890  +118:21
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bbrowningbobmcw: I don't think config-api will mess me up really - most of my work is just working through module stuffs18:29
bbrowningfirst getting openshift-ping visible as a module and now this distributable web session tangent that I'm regretting going down :D18:29
bbrowningI think I originally went down this path to try and write a test that actually uses clustering and at the time this seemed the easiest way18:30
bbrowningnow I'd rather just use jgroups directly from inside a test I think :D18:30
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bobmcwbbrowning: jgroups things become a little more stringilicous for the moment: https://gist.github.com/bobmcwhirter/809c532c11acca55ae0c18:49
bbrowningthat's fine18:49
bbrowningI figured the Protocols class would go away w/ config-api18:50
bobmcwreleasing config-api19:32
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bobmcwhow would everyone feel about version inflation, to get me out of my perma-beta mentality?20:31
bobmcwe.g. a major release every 2 months?20:31
bobmcwwe could be v6 in a year20:32
bobmcwwe could claim only prime-number releases are "stable"20:34
bobmcw3, 5, 7, 11, 1320:35
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bbrowningthat's one way to do it ;)20:38
* bobmcw feels judged20:40
* bobmcw is enjoying a standing beer20:40
bobmcwwhich is significantly better than standing water20:40
bobmcwso, if everyone puts on their Minimum Viable Product hat, and file some @issues for anything we think we need for v1, that'd be stellar20:41
proddbotWe'd be fine and dandy like sour candy, my friend, if you would file an issue at https://github.com/wildfly-swarm/wildfly-swarm/issues20:41
bobmcwor v1320:41
kenfinniganfollow JRuby guys and go 9000!21:00
kenfinniganor 1M -> 1 million21:00
bobmcwthe jruby guys are questionable, quite frankly21:04
bobmcwoh, hi, enebo21:04
enebokenfinnigan: nice to have met you in person21:04
kenfinniganenebo: likewise, always good to put a name to a face!21:04
kenfinniganeven if it's as bad as mine ;-)21:05
enebokenfinnigan: dude you stole my joke (except it would be my face)21:05
jbossbotgit [wildfly-swarm] push master 14f022b.. Bob McWhirter Rename wildfly-swarm-clustering to wildfly-swarm-jgroups.21:13
jbossbotgit [wildfly-swarm] push master 7f13e0f.. Bob McWhirter Move JGroups to be config-api based.21:13
jbossbotgit [wildfly-swarm] push master URL: http://github.com/wildfly-swarm/wildfly-swarm/compare/da7d6d4...7f13e0f21:13
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jbossbotgit [wildfly-swarm] push master 8afc2b7.. Ben Browning Add a couple more module deps openshift-ping needs to actually work...22:05
jbossbotgit [wildfly-swarm] push master URL: http://github.com/wildfly-swarm/wildfly-swarm/commit/8afc2b74022:05
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